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Carillion crisis: UK banks offer help to small firms, as task force launched - as it happened

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Thu 18 Jan 2018 12.17 ESTFirst published on Thu 18 Jan 2018 03.18 EST
Workers outside a Carillion construction site in central London.
Workers outside a Carillion construction site in central London. Photograph: Simon Dawson/Reuters
Workers outside a Carillion construction site in central London. Photograph: Simon Dawson/Reuters

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UK banks are falling over each other to announce support for customers suffering a financial hit from Carillion.

That Carillion support so far:-

Lloyds: We'll make £50m available.
RBS: Make it £75m from us.
HSBC: We'll do £100m.
Santander: We're in but won't say how much.
Barclays: We'll "look at" helping on a "case by case basis".

— Rob Davies (@ByRobDavies) January 18, 2018

So, no excuse for the banks not to help distressed customers...

Elsewhere....

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This is turning into a bidding war! HSBC have just told us they are going to provide up to £100m of support for its customers.

Now HSBC is doing £100m of support for businesses hit by Carillion, outgunning RBS (£75m) and Lloyds £50m). This is great. Over to you, Barclays.

— Rob Davies (@ByRobDavies) January 18, 2018

RBS offers £75m help to Carillion customers

Just in! Royal Bank of Scotland is creating a £75m fund to help its business customers who have been caught up in the Carillion collapse.

Hours after being criticised by MPs over its treatment of small firms in the past, RBS says it will do what it can to help in the current crisis.

This includes providing payment holidays and assistance with their overdraft, for customers whose cashflows have been wrecked by Carillion’s liquidation.

The bank (majority owned by the taxpayer) says:

We have over £75m available to support impacted small businesses and will make more finance available if required to top up this fund. We will also support our Commercial customers on a case-by-case basis with their individual requirements.

We have a proactive, principles-based approach that allows us to assist our customers when there are unexpected external circumstances. This support is available to customers banking with NatWest, Royal Bank of Scotland and Ulster Bank in Northern Ireland.

Les Matheson, CEO for Personal and Business Banking at RBS, is encouraging customers to get in touch if they need help.

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Opposition MPs are also pushing the UK government to explain how Carillion’s pension deficit was allowed to swell in the run-up to its collapse.

The FT’s Josephine Cumbo has the details:

The UK government is being pressed to explain why a funding shortfall at Carillion’s pension scheme was allowed to widen before the construction group’s collapse.

Opposition politicians have written to the government and to the UK Pensions Regulator asking a series of questions about the shortfall, which nearly doubled from £317m in 2015 to £587m at the end of 2016.

About 28,000 members of Carillion’s 13 pension schemes face cuts to their retirement benefits, as payment of their pensions is taken over by the Pension Protection Fund, the industry fund that supports members of collapsed company schemes.

SCOOP: Opposition presses for urgent answers on Carillion #pension funding hole https://t.co/onHHAMTN4y via @financialtimes

— Josephine Cumbo (@JosephineCumbo) January 18, 2018

Accountancy firm Blick Rothenberg say the UK tax authorities could help small businesses hurt by Carillion’s collapse.

The UK tax rules allow companies to claim VAT relief on unpaid bills -- but only six months after the money was due. Carillion made some suppliers wait 120 days for payment, so in a worst-case scenario a supplier might face a 10 month wait before they can reclaim VAT from the government.

Daphne Hemingway, VAT Partner at Blick Rothenberg, says the

“In this instance, perhaps HMRC should also look at reducing the wait time for obtaining a VAT refund, especially as the government is trying to get large corporations to deal more fairly with small and medium sized businesses when it comes to the payment of bills.

Labour MP Pat McFadden is trying to get to the bottom of how Carillion lurched into liquidation on Monday morning.

He’s asked business secretary Greg Clark to answer 10 questions -- including how much the crisis will cost the taxpayer, and what discussions went on behind the scenes in recent weeks as Carillion tried to stay afloat.

McFadden says:

“We know that Carillion sought financial help from Government as it sought to put together a rescue package in recent weeks.

It is essential that we know what exactly the company was asking for and how the cost of that compares to the potential costs facing the taxpayer from liquidation.

Here’s the full list of questions:

  1. Press reports indicate that the court statement lodged by Carillion CEO Keith Cochrane says that the company made at least one if approach if not more to the Government seeking financial help. (a) How many approaches did the company make in recent months? (b) When did they take place and what sums of money were discussed?
  2. How much was Carillion seeking from its lenders in the discussions which took place before liquidation?
  3. Was there any discussion between the Government and Carillion’s banks about what would be needed from Government to avoid liquidation? If so, what was the sum of money being requested from Government?
  4. Was there an estimate made of the cost to the public purse of unwinding the business, the impact of liquidation on Carillion’s thousands of sub-contractors, sorting out and re-tendering or selling the existing contracts and all the other associated costs which will now have to be paid? Again, if there was an estimate of these costs given to Ministers before the company went into liquidation, what was the figure involved?
  5. Did the Government make a comparison between the cost to the public purse of any financial help the company may have been seeking and the cost to the public purse which would arise from liquidation?
  6. Why was liquidation chosen as the path for wind up rather than administration? Did the Government make a cost comparison of these two options? If so, what were the estimates of the costs involved that the Government had before them?
  7. When will the official receiver report on their investigation into corporate governance, including changes to the company’s renumeration scheme in 2016?
  8. Did Ministers or officials meet with the company’s management and trade unions in the run up to liquidation? If so when and what was discussed?
  9. Did the Government appoint financial advisors to help it make decisions about this matter? If so, who were they?
  10. What process does the Government have in place for dealing with Carillion’s thousands of sub-contractors, given the potential of a domino effect from the company’s collapse?

Jeremy Corbyn’s response to the Carillion crisis goes beyond a mere task force.

The Labour leader has vowed to rip up current procurement rules for outsourcing services, so that they would be run by the public sector by default.

Speaking to the Guardian, Corbyn said the next Labour government would end the “racket” of outsourcing, pledging:

“We will rewrite the rules to give the public back control of their services.”

Corbyn on Carillion: we'll end outsourcing 'racket' in rule change https://t.co/GfoGfuJPNf

— Jessica Elgot (@jessicaelgot) January 18, 2018

Setting up a task force is the easy bit.

Now the government, along with union leaders and business chiefs, must protect Carillion’s workers, maintain public services outsourced to the group, and provide a helping hand to small firms who are suffering losses.

The TUC says it will bring five demands to this afternoon’s task force meeting:

  • 1) the transfer of private sector contracts to alternative providers with jobs, pay and pensions protected;
  • 2) a comprehensive support package for at-risk workers, apprentices and small firms;
  • 3) protection for agency and zero-hours workers on Carillion contracts to ensure they can recover unpaid wages;
  • 4) bringing Carillion’s public-service contracts back in-house to ensure consistent delivery and certainty for workers;
  • 5) an urgent risk assessment on other large outsourcing firms to avoid another crisis, and a moratorium on future outsourcing.

UK government launches Carillion taskforce

NEWSFLASH: The Government is setting up a task force to help firms and workers hurt by the collapse of Carillion.

The national task force will involve businesses, unions and the government, the Business Department has announced.

It wil meet later today, to review the impact of Carillion’s liquidation on Monday morning.

A Business Department spokesman said the move was aimed at supporting and monitoring the impact on small businesses and workers.

The TUC, which called for such a task force earlier this week, is pleased that the government has acted (although it has taken three days!)

TUC General Secretary Frances O’Grady says there’s no time to lose:

“Time is of the essence in dealing with this crisis. We need urgent action to protect jobs, pay and pensions. This cannot be a talking shop.”

More to follow:

Government setting up task force involving business and unions to support firms and workers affected by the collapse of Carillion - @beisgovuk

— Alan Jones (@AlanJonesPA) January 18, 2018

Getting back to Carillion....and business secretary Greg Clark has applauded Lloyds for setting up a £50m emergency fund to help small firms.

He might even be trying to take some credit....

.@GregClarkMP: “I welcome this positive move from @LBGNews following my meeting with banks yesterday in which we discussed support for SMEs affected by Carillion's insolvency.” #Carillion https://t.co/TH3Ws37pCo https://t.co/mGcG8lXYXo

— Dept for BEIS (@beisgovuk) January 18, 2018

Another Labour MP, Kate Green, attacks RBS’s failure to properly compensate customers who suffered from its GRG division.

She says the bank has failed to provide proper information to claimants or the courts, making it harder for them to obtain redress.

Tonia Antoniazzi, Labour MP, says she also has constituents whose businesses have been destroyed by UK banks.

They have lost their homes, had their families torn apart, lost their health and their future

They have been living a hand-to-mouth existence, just so some banker can receive their obscene bonus.

MP: RBS's excuse over GRG 'does not wash'

Fresh questions were raised about Royal Bank of Scotland’s conduct yesterday, when an internal memo showed how staff at its Global Restructuring Group had been encouraged to put customers under pressure.

Called “Just Hit Budget!”, the memo described struggling firms as “basket cases” and urged staff to give customers enough rope to “hang themselves”.

Conservative MP Stephen Kerr says RBS showed a “contempt for small firms”.

Kerr actually joined RBS as a 16-year old, and he’s disappointed that the bank’s reputation has fallen so low since.

He also blasts RBS’s current CEO, Ross McEwan, for blaming a “junior” manager for the Just Hit Budget! memo.

Kerr says:

Frankly, a junior bank manager would not have written this kind of document without understanding that it conformed to the culture of the business that they were operating in.

I”m afraid that the chief executive is condemned by his own justification, which frankly does not wash.

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